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I want to quit going to church since no one can explain these two bible verses to me

We sometimes need to set theological understandings aside and confront issues with common sense, asking questions when or if we don’t understand anything.

Some Bible verses have very similar meanings, and we, as amateur biblical scholars, can get confused when attempting to translate them to our own understanding.

The tale of Goliath’s death and the question of who killed him has occupied my thoughts for some time, and I’ve been trying to figure out who was the original slayer of the giant from Gath.

Two Bible verses in total contradict one another, and I’d like to see if someone can help me understand these two verses so that I can know the true person who killed Goliath as mentioned in the Bible.

Young David’s prowess and confidence were demonstrated when he used a catapult and a smooth stone to fire at Goliath’s head, then proceeded to cut off his head with a blade.There was no mention of someone else supporting or assisting David in that verse, and he didn’t have any other name than the one he was given when he was born.

Goliath is killed by another person named el hanan in the second verse of 2 Samuel 21:19, which completely contradicts Goliath’s initial death in 1 Samuel 17:50.

Goliath had already died in the first verse (1 Samuel 17:50), so where did the Goliath elhanan kill one in 2 Samuel 21:19 come from? I’m sure you’re as perplexed as I am.

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    1. You are a fool for asking that question before you post you should learn the information and study it,where it not in your Bible and raise another pharoh who know no Joseph? This is another case of it go to your Google to ask how many Goliath is in the Bible

        1. That is how people fail exam, when you read without understanding. 2Samuel21:19 says “brother or Goliath the Gittite” . There is difference between you and your brother. Read that verse again and stop been childish. Mmch..

        2. The one at 2Sam 21:19 was his brother (Goliath’s brother) that was killed by Elhanan… Not Goliath…

          Secondly, David was a tool Use by God, if God wasn’t involved David would never have been able to kill Goliath… It was David that fought the fight physical but God fought the spiritual… That physical tiny stone couldn’t him, but the spiritual force supporting it

    2. There was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on every hand, and six toes on every foot, twenty four in number; and he also was born to the giant.
      21 When he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimei, David’s brother, killed him.
      22 These four were born to the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.

      1. The Bible verses are very clear. In I Samuel 17 : 50 to 53 , David killed Golaiah while in II Samuel 21 : 17 , Golaiah ‘ s son was also killed because he wanted to revenge on David but he was killed. It was not Golaiah who was killed . Please get confused.

    3. 2 Samuel 21:19
      [19]Again there was war at Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.(. U are daft ,pray for understanding wen next u reading the Bible….)…ur answers are in same passages u ignored ignorantly….

      1. There is no contradiction in the Bible. Though there might be human error in its translation and interpretation. Even in the two passages you quoted, the error is in the translation of the Hebrew text to English. The translation of 2 Samuel 21:19 should read “Elhanan Son of Jair the Bethlemite killed the brother of Goliath the Gittite who had a spear . . .”. The problem is that the Hebrew text does not have ‘the brother of’. In the same way, Gath, in 1 Sam 17:4 & Gittite in 2 Sam 21:19 refer to the same city. (Please, see the NIV text notes on 2 Sam. 21:19 ). All God’s words are true ( Psalm 119:160; Rev. 19:9). So I beg you brother Oluwatobiloba, don’t quit going to church. See also 2 Tim. 3:16-17

      2. Kindly use two or three different versions and you will come to know that the one killed in 2 Samuel 21 was a brother of Goliath: “where Elhanan the son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethrehemite killed the brother of Goliath the Gittite, ” ( NKJV).

    4. The word of God is forever truth. No contradiction in the word of God.
      Now, the bible says God declare the end from beginning. You see the 5 stone picked in the brook was not intentional. Why ? because the bible says in RMS 8:14. “As many that are led by the Spirit of God, are sons of God”
      David was actually led by the spirit of God. He could have picked those stone from plain ground or picked one stone, but was led to the brook or flowing stream to pick those stone. Now, spiritual interpretation of what David did are these: water is a type for Holy spirit and the word of God. Both are inseparable. Again, stone is a solid substance as we all know which is evident. Stone is spiritually represent faith. As faith is a substance of things of for the evidence of thing not seen, so is that 5 stones in the hand of David. Also, 5 is a number which represent grace available for David because it is not by power nor by the might but by the Spirit says the lord. The Spirit of the lord by grace is readily available for victory for David and the people of God. David as human just picked 5 stones which again represent 5 great enemies aside of minor one that can thwart and militate his reign as king and purpose of God for his life and children of Israel and the whole world.
      Note that one renowned enemy called Goliath had been challenging them for 40 days which was not a news in isreal. Even little baby in Israel was aware of this right. Now, as I said he picked 5 stones both for present and future enemies which the Spirit of the lord helped to do so. If you read 2 Samuel 21 and 1 chronicles 20 from beginning to end you will understand that our God is great in our lives. The remaining 4 stones spiritually killed other 4 giants of same family of Goliath who had vowed by their gods to destroy Israel and David. Don’t forget this battle is between God and the enemies of the the people of God.
      In summary, God loves us so much and He could do anything to establish His purpose for our lives.
      Don’t quit Church because no excuses in Heaven for forsaking God thinking His word is fiction and the gathering of his people. God bless you.

    5. Not Goliath but the brother of Goliath, please read well.
      And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.
      2 Samuel:21:19

  1. There was no sword with the little David..But Goliath had a sword with him
    A man of Knowledge will understand and know that David slew Him (Goliath) with Goliath’s sword

  2. If you read carefully you will see that other versions of the Bible like King James version talks about the brother of Goliath the Gittite.

  3. If you read carefully you will see that other versions of the Bible like King James version talks about the brother of Goliath the Gittite.

  4. Goliath was killed by David in first Samuel 17v50.in second Samuel 21v19 was another battle in Gob with Philistines, where Elhanan the son of the Jaareoregim,a Bethlehemite,slew the BROTHER of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a Weaver’s beam.so they are talking about Goliath’s brother not Goliath which devid killed in first Samuel 17v50..

  5. My brother or sister the Bible is very clear that Jesus sent us the Holy spirit to teach us all the truth. We are not orphans but we have the conforter who is ready to help us with no extra cost. Just invite Him because He lives inside us. He is the revealer of God’s mysteries.

  6. Goliath was not a name of a person
    It is a title given to a warrior
    Any person can be called a Goliath .

    1. It was the Brother of Goliath that was killed in 2nd Samuel verse 19, so read with understanding please.

  7. Pls read,study and meditate your Bible very well don’t interpret the Bible according to your mind interpret the Bible according to the mind of God.

    1. In hebrew name goliath means a giant or a strong person it’s a title for any strong person, e.g if u read (1chronicles 20:5-7) u will find that there was another goliath, it might help u to understand the scriptures.

  8. It’s Goliath’s brother… not Goliath himself…. please pray before reading the Bible, and use your familiar language so that you understand

  9. You have a free will of making your choice of whom to serve, but a day will come when you will have no choice. (Judgement day) and please be very careful of what you think about God because he has revealed himself to me many times and I believe God is real no matter what?

  10. Yes you should not Dare to quit the Church because of Question. These are the responses to your questions.
    (1) 1samual 17vs44-51, there DAVID Killed Goliath see 1samual18vs7-8. And the second place was 2samuel21vs19. This place was a brother to the said Goliath his name Goliath of Gath. And here was one of David servants of sons killed this another Goliath. This is family name. So there two Goliath and they were Killed by two different people David and his Boy Killed two of them. In different occasions. Therefore rejoice for your questions are answered.

  11. The one at 2Sam 21:19 was his brother (Goliath’s brother) that was killed by Elhanan… Not Goliath…

    Secondly, David was a tool Use by God, if God wasn’t involved David would never have been able to kill Goliath… It was David that fought the fight physical but God fought the spiritual… That physical tiny stone couldn’t him, but the spiritual force supporting it

  12. This is clearly an article that was written in ignorance or trying to instill doubt in the children of God about there faith and why they go to Church.

    There are many things in the bible that we do not fully understand, you cant say you want to stop going to Church because you dont understand a certain passage, please be careful with the word of God that you don’t lead people astray because you will be judge according to your intention.

  13. The respective responses above to your quest ,I believe, are explicit enough to clear any ambiguity you’ve been having in understanding the verses in 1 Sam. 17 and 2 Sam. 21:19 quoted by you as above.
    In addition, while I commend ur effort in asking the question for clarification purposes, that shouldn’t in anyway be the basis of ur intention to quit going to church. It shows u don’t really know why you go to church. It further questions the reality and authenticity of your personal encounter &l relationship with Christ. If u really know Him,, such a trivial issue as this is NOT enough a reason u should quit going to church. Whenever u don’t understand any portion of the Holy Scripture, ask questions from your Pastor or any of ur Leaders in faith or as u’ve done via the media & it’ll be clarified to u. Jesus is more precious than silver & gold, eternal life received as a gift through Him (Room. 6:23) is INVALUABLE. Fellowship with Him in Spirit and in truth is the greatest privilege God availed to any mortal man.

  14. My brother your soul is important to the Lord.
    The first Goliath was killed when David was but a little boy; the second Goliath was killed when David has becomed King, Old,wiery, exhausted and fiength in Battle.
    Please Bros calculate the number of years between the two battles as reported and quoted by you.
    Also am sure that within your village alone and/or where you are coming from that an enquiry will show more than two persons answering the same name as you not to talk of conducting the same inquiries in Town or L.G.A.
    As I said earlier God is interested in you; so if you to believe, then believe, if not then be damned.

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